Evidence Of Another Solution That Works
Evidence Of A Solution That Works
If you live in the U.S or Canada and you’ve been doing some research into the global conspiracy for some time then you have probably stumbled upon a commercial redemption or commercial remedy site or 2.
The idea of a commercial redemption or “remedy” began in the mid 80’s. Hundreds of patriots have sacrificed their entire lives to uncover some of the most hidden secrets of this process by digging through thousands of government and IRS paperwork, following leads and the most important and most telling fact that they were onto something, many involved have had their liberties hijacked. Various remedies have been tested. Some have been elaborated on and perfected, others have been found to only allow the alleged authorities to harass and arrest. If you have no idea what I am talking about then allow me to enlighten you, please.
The basic premise to all this is the fact that in 1933 the corporation known as the U.S GOVERNMENT decided to file bankruptcy. In the process some pretty shifty con work ensued to begin to pay back an unscrupulous loan using credit issued by the central bank to the U.S Gov towards the bankruptcy. The payback began with stripping the unwitting American people of all of their gold and any way to pay for anything as gold was and still is the accepted exchange of value i.e real money. I also feel that all assets were confiscated but this is arguable. The only exempt items of gold where coins and jewelry. This is noted in the public records as U.S Congress, House Joint Resolution 192, June 5 1933. Now, they knew that they could not just take the wealth of the people without offering us something in return or possibly go down for fraud. The kicker is that they didn’t have to flat out tell us about it.
This remedy was buried though and took years for some of the smartest people that I know of to uncover. At first it seemed as if the feds would just pay your bills for you since they took the wealth of the people away i.e he who has the gold pays the bills. Through some trial and error we found that this is not quite the case. Even though there was nothing in which to pay with and due to HJR 192 making it against public policy to actually pay for anything in gold or any other form of currency we knew the remedy was there. That’s when the idea of credit and who has it came into play.
Come to find only living beings have credit and it seems that this credit is unlimited. Not the banks nor do the corporations or governments actually have credit. They can issue credit but they receive it from the labor of the living man or woman. This is the reason why banks can print as much money and give out as many “loans” as they want.
What we are finding out is that this credit has to return to its source, which is you.
What is happening is that we are issuing our credit to the banks, our employers and several other sources to pay for the U.S bankruptcy. In order for our credit to be returned to us we have to claim it as income and it must be returned to us as a tax from whomever we issued it to via a 1099 oid form, a w4 and a 1096 form. This even applies to taxes that you pay. Federal, State and sales taxes are issuance of credit to the feds which they are required to pay back to you. How’s that for beating the Illuminati.
Many will be surprised by this statement but in a way the IRS should be your best friend. They are 3rd party debt/tax collectors and are actually really good at it. With the proper paper work, the return of all the credit that you have issued to any entity will be paid back to you, it seems, as a tax.
This is something that I am now currently undertaking and everything seems to be going well.
This is some evidence that I’ve found that this process works and works big
http://www.commercialredemption.com/resources/anotherZYApraise.pdf
For tutorials, ebooks and more evidence on this process go to
Evidence Of Another Solution That Works
November 25, 2008 at 12:19 am
I am also pursing a process and things appear to be going well.
May 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I would be interested in your process. We too have a different process using a bond and International Bill of exchange.
November 26, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Like more information on how to do it. Have some people who are trying to do it. Not sure whether they know what they are doing.
skype phone # 425 296-6716
January 2, 2009 at 4:56 am
Thanks for the information I would like to learn more however the links at the bottom of the page have been taken down. Is there another way for one to get access to the information on those sites?
January 2, 2009 at 7:40 am
this is bullshit! It is a scam! check out the irs website…bet you wont actually post this comment huh?
May 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Your wrong! I have used this process with a 1099A to pay a traffic ticket. I can prove it with the court’s docket entry. What everyone needs to understand is that there is another account. It’s known as the TTL account. It is the private side of the National Debt account which is public. This is because all accounting systems are accruel, or double entry accounts. Learn how to properly tape this TTL account and you can pay off your mortgage, car loan, credit cards, etc. As the TTL account is lowered so is the National Debt! The Accounts must always balance. Of course the IRS doesn’t want you to know about this because as long as the national debt goes up the stockholders of the Federal Reserve (a privat bank) make trillions in interest!
January 2, 2009 at 7:41 am
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=98129,00.html
oops forgot to leave the irs website
January 2, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Thank You Rosie for your comment but if you had done your research then you would’ve noticed that the IRS is trying to scare you. This process has nothing to do with bonds or sight drafts. Look at the IRS rulings on the strawman as well. Not the same argument.
January 2, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Links are working as well
January 6, 2009 at 7:13 am
You are correct dmlovinglife6, this is just another scare tactic to separate the sheeple. Since the 1099oid process is far easier than the redemption process, the IRS is more than likely getting flooded with 1099oid filings from people who have no clue of the forms purpose.
January 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm
The link:
http://www.commercialredemption.com/resources/anotherZYApraise.pdf
doesnt work.
Is there ANY proof somewhere, or did the “officials of disinformation” take them off? Why is everybody scared of the truth.
Plus, so many people send in things that they don’t understand, they just give ammunition to those who cant wait to rebut the whol eprocess and destroy everything that was build up.
Personally, I am sick of all this BS, on BOTH sides, there is no proof, except above the federal being sovereign, but they arent gonna talk about sovereignty to even deny it, why won’t they DENY it, not say FRIVOLOUS all the time SAY IT’s NOT TRUE then, if it isnt, they use words like “Taxpayer” and “CItizen” but never flat out say to the sovereign it’s a lie! Why not then, if this is all a scam. I read all IRS and All government rebuttals and not one time did they say they were FALSE! hmmmmm…getting second thoughts about the word games again….
January 15, 2009 at 2:38 am
Luckily I have that document saved so I’ll put up a webpage for it.
January 24, 2009 at 3:58 am
Brother in-law went through with it and got his 500K, the FBI just seized all of his accountant’s computers and any other records. The FBI is are investigating him also. It does work but it is a loop hole in Big Brothers process that will only cause life long harrasment and hardship from Big Brother until they can close the loop hole. Good Luck!!
January 29, 2009 at 5:36 am
Does it work?? Most likely, but if you get caught you are so f****d. You can guarentee that the US Attorney, the IRS and the FBI will hound your a*s big time. And if you dont get the check? You will most likely get some big a**ed fines that would be better spent on survival food, guns, gold and bibles. Dont screw around with the Government, with a liberal President it will only get much much worse because he thinks that money jingling in your pocket is meant for the welfare crowd, the dope addicts and the under employed. Play it safer, dont file the bogus paper.
February 1, 2009 at 6:43 am
I’ve been in law for more than a few years. During that time, I’ve seen all manner of silver bullets (e.g., commercial liens, strawman, redemption, etc.). As time progressed, I am seeing them resurface, sometimes after repackaging to promote them under new names. One thing I’ve learned is that many who thought they received sound advice and that they succeeded after following it learn that the government often grinds slowly, but it doesn’t stop. Said another way, they have their purported win, only to have their lives dashed some years later. Usually, it’s about five years before things hit the fan.
Before you jump on the advice offered by the latest guru of law, learn law yourself. Not just a few Title 26 codes, but as much as you can, especially administrative law, because that’s where it’s all going to start.
At the same time, hold on to [or learn] a little common sense advice: “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” Always start there, because it’s better to error on the side of caution than to risk everything on unproven theory. If it hasn’t been successfully used for more than a decade, it’s unproven.
February 22, 2009 at 2:35 am
I agree that there’s quite an element of risk. But some have used various commercial redemption methodologies – including the 1099 OID – for over a decade and never had problems. Why a few get targeted and the rest don’t is still a mystery to me and I’m sure others as well. Maybe the authorities found a loophole in the loophole these unfortunate targets were using. It stands to reason that if the Feds want to hold the lid down they’ll try to create the impression that the entire notion of redemption is flawed by finding fault in whatever cases might have faulty particulars of one kind or another. (And I’ve come to the distinct impression that the Devil is indeed in the details – not surprising considering how abstruse and convoluted the Behemoth legal system has been made.)
My sense is that the most prudent course is too keep studying and stay posted on what’s happening – but don’t jump into anything sooner than your knowledge and comfort level allow. Two gurus in the redemption movement whose material I’ve been reviewing themselves extend this admonition – referring to Winston Shrout and Dr. Sam Kennedy. Most others would likely say the same – which is why everything presented through all the redemption sites isn’t legal or tax advice, but instead provided for “informational” or “educational” purposes.
March 6, 2009 at 11:55 pm
I have been studying this stuff a long time. by the way I read the irs code and that rebuttal from the irs is just a trick, you have to read their own definitions of what an individual is, taxpayer is, personal services is etc.
what a trade and business is, etc. I am a nontaxpayer by their own defintions, but to them I may still be one. after all they have created so many locks into public office thing like birth certificate, having paid taxes in the past, especially 1040 which is for public officers only. I mean how do I prove I am not a public officer? they have my signature on 1040 from the past (before I knew any better) I use a address, have a drivers license even though I don’t drive I travel, they automatically register your car as a motor vehicle before you even leave with it off the lot without your knowledge, I mean they have so many tricks to get you to “volunteer” to be a public officer or volunteer surety for the federal debt it is mind boggling. I have a social security number which I was told as a teen ager was required to get a job.
then of course I have read about it this redemption stuff, but how do I verify it in the actual law since all I have is someones’ opinion of trying to connect the dots. I do believe they have a strawman, but there is no money in there, only a certificate that you exist and they borrow against that, no doubt for their wars, pork projects and to enrich themselves without paying taxes themselves. these are only securities, in fact how can any of us use such funds if they did exist since we didn’t create the strawman or put anything in there?
but I read about the bond process and heard audio conferences about it. since it is a promissory note to pay in the future how are you going to pay it when you have actually money to pay it? I mean you are promising to pay in the future a certain sum of money, the usual I heard for a initial bond is 300,000,000 million. now where are you going to get that if they call in those bonds? or want to redeem those bonds which you promised to pay? they say the government promised to pay all debts public and private (hjr 192) but who is the government? aren’t the people supposed to be the government?
how are you going to pay it? if they put gold and silver back into the market how are you going to acquire enough to cover all the bonds? could this perhaps be a trick of some sort by the powers that be? after all this redemption thing may have some merits, and some may even be true, but do you honestly think because some people figured out the remedy by law and even dot the i’s and cross the t’s perfectly they would honor it and just say okay you got us, we will honor our own laws and rules now and give rememdy?
by what I have heard like robert menard, and hjrbonds site, ike, and many others they make is sound like the government people want us to mature and act like adults and access and use the remedy and that they want us to use it and are saying “it’s about time” the kids figured it out! such expressions as they are happy when we give them the bonds or they just love us when we take control of our stock in the country etc.
if they are happy when we use the remedy create the bonds that gives them funds, then why are they making it so difficult to figure out and not putting the information out there plainly for us to see and explaining how to do it so we don’t go to jail, get fined and lose our jobs and homes?
no I think they like us to be scared and ignorant about it and how to do it properly, because that keeps us a debtors and them as creditors and beneficiaries of our property. and if enough people do figure it out it probably won’t make much difference they will just not honor it and find excuses to put you in jail, demonize you on tv or some other threats and cover ups. the law is not the problem or even understanding it, but rather the judges and politicians, and bankers etc, do not obey the laws, lawless as it were.
what I did based on what I feel I can do was write the attorney general and the secretary of state in my state, a notice of understanding and intent with a claim of right. there i explained how paying taxes was under duress as I showed from the irs manual how I am not a taxpayer, and that I use a drivers license because many police officers do not read the state code (motor vehicl act or code) and thus do not know the differnce between what a motor vehicle is and a personal convenyance. but on my drivers license I put without prejudice and all rights reserved. I have only one car and cannot afford to have it taken away from me and go through due process to get it back.
I also wrote a letter to the motor vehicle department of my state and explained their own law to them the lawyer didn’t know, or pretended to not know their own law or what the motor vehicle code said. I showed him what it said. I waited for a response and there was none, he responded to my first letter but proceeded to tell me what the requirements were such as a license plate and sticker etc. then I responded with the actual law from their own website the ohio revised code. no reply.
so the administrators of these departments know what they are doing borders on fraud if not outright fraud, after all there is such a thing as fraudualent concealment and stuff. at the very least they are acting under bad faith. ignorance of the law is no excuse but I proceeded to tell the attorney general and secretary yes it is, since alot of it is vague, hard to understand how it applies or how it applies to me, that ignorance is definitly an excuse after all congress don’t understand it either and many times don’t even read legislation before they pass it, so the burden of proof was on them not me. I also reminded them that there a a quadzillion laws and regulations, how can anyone learn, memorize or understand or even apply them? they don’t even understand it or apply it.
I notarized it, sent it got the cards back showing their signatures that they received it and they never replied, it has been about 6 months since I did that.
if this remedy I hear others claim works for them, that is all hearsay and testimonials I cannot verify or clarify as true. I would have to see it done personally, and have real judges and attorneys who are still practicing law and stuff who verify it. and since there is alot of money to put out to use the services of said people who know about and have used remedy it could just as well be a scam, after all they are asking 1000’s of dollars ot give you information and more if you need them to do some of it for you.
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March 20, 2009 at 2:15 pm
THIS IS A SCAM!!!!!
For those of you out there who believe in this, please be warned that you will face harsh penalties from the IRS for believing in this.
The originators of this scam have been indicted on wire fraud and for providing false investment advice.
Following through in this process will NOT provide you with any tax benefits, but WILL provide you a quick response on an IRS audit, as well as a penalty for filing false information with the IRS.
April 25, 2009 at 9:24 am
This is a scam. Why is there not any proof to this? Why can you buy a so called “KIT” for $150.00 that supposedly proves that 1099 OID’s work? And why is there always a charge involved with filing forms and and selling their info to “we the people” that guys like Winston Shrout want to help liberate? Answer: They are making a living off of people buying into this. Winston doesnt give his info away. Ask Winston to put up all of his 1099 OID filings as proof that this works. Of course he wont.